Earth Talk: Science and Spiritual Practices – Dr Rupert Sheldrake
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Earth Talk: Science and Spiritual Practices – Dr Rupert Sheldrake
Earth Talk: Science and Spiritual Practices
Lecture by Dr Rupert Sheldrake
In this lecture at Schumacher College, Rupert Sheldrake shows how the "scientific worldview" is moribund; the sciences are being constricted by assumptions that have hardened into dogmas. But science itself is now transcending the materialist philosophy, and pointing toward a new sense of a living world. The cosmos is no longer like a machine running down; it is more like a developing organism with an inherent memory, and so is our planet, Gaia. These new paradigm shifts in the sciences shed a new light on spiritual practices like pilgrimage, ritual, prayer and meditation.
Rupert Sheldrake, Ph.D. is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific papers and 10 books, including The Science Delusion. He was a Fellow of Clare College, Cambridge University, a Research Fellow of the Royal Society, Principal Plant Physiologist at ICRISAT (the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics) in Hyderabad, India, and from 2005-2010 the Director of the Perrott-Warrick Project, funded from Trinity College, Cambridge. While in India, he spent two years living in the ashram of Fr Bede Griffiths, and has given workshops on science and spirituality with Matthew Fox and Brother David Steindl-Rast. He is a Fellow of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Petaluma, California, and a visiting professor at the Graduate Institute in Connecticut.
His website is www.sheldrake.org
In this lecture at Schumacher College, Rupert Sheldrake shows how the “scientific worldview” is moribund; the sciences are being constricted by assumptions that have hardened into dogmas. But science itself is now transcending the materialist philosophy, and pointing toward a new sense of a living world. The cosmos is no longer like a machine running down; it is more like a developing organism with an inherent memory, and so is our planet, Gaia. These new paradigm shifts in the sciences shed a new light on spiritual practices like pilgrimage, ritual, prayer and meditation.
Rupert Sheldrake, Ph.D. is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific papers and 10 books, including The Science Delusion. He was a Fellow of Clare College, Cambridge University, a Research Fellow of the Royal Society, Principal Plant Physiologist at ICRISAT (the International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics) in Hyderabad, India, and from 2005-2010 the Director of the Perrott-Warrick Project, funded from Trinity College, Cambridge. While in India, he spent two years living in the ashram of Fr Bede Griffiths, and has given workshops on science and spirituality with Matthew Fox and Brother David Steindl-Rast. He is a Fellow of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, Petaluma, California, and a visiting professor at the Graduate Institute in Connecticut.
The Dodgy Dog experiment is all very well but what about the Dog who’s
master died at work never returning home. Yet for many years the dog went
to the bus stop at the right time and waited. I think a movie was
made based on it, not to mention other stories just like this. That would
refute this questionable assertion bordering on Woo. Perhaps quantum
entanglement might be the basis for the dog detecting the return or
something else. This would need to be done 100’s of times minimum to get a
data set. The way he is presenting this we will be asked to accept
mediums, witch-doctors, mind readers, faith healers and homeopathy as
plausible after a century of exposing the fakery and fraud of these
practices.
I’m just going to say this, i’m sure many of you have had similar
experiences:
I was a very spiritual child, but was groomed by parents/society into the
logical maths and sciences (which i love, don’t get me wrong).
I got into an ivy league school, and was becoming increasingly depressed
with the path I was being led down (as were many others, I observed).
I then took a particularly strong batch of magic mushrooms, which changed
the course of my life forever. I was graced by god, and had a confirmed
telepathic experience with my mother (3000 miles away).
After this event, the synchronicity floodgates in my life opened wide. I
knew that science wasn’t ‘wrong’ perse, just horribly incomplete at
explaining reality in totality as a methodology.
The brain is by far one of the most complex structure ever observed by man.
A single brain has more connections than stars in the known Universe, and
indeed, it can’t alone explain consciousness, but a woo, invisible and
magic thing like a “soul” can. Hum, interesting. The problem with Rupert’s
claims is that not only that several them are very problematic and
uninformed, but several of them we can actually show is completely
bullshit. The classical snake oil seller.
I like this lecture, He asks more questions than gives answers and that is
always a healthy approach. In the same way that Dawkins cautions against
the ‘god of the gaps’, being that ‘if we don’t understand it then it must
be god’, The same should apply to science being ‘if we don’t understand it
or cant record and measure it, that it doesn’t exist. The spiritual and
scientific horizon is always moving towards us and we navigate as we go.
Nice, specially on telepaty (dogs, but also humans) and memory of species,
or joking on death and ressurection at Jordan river, but some limitations,
like the one that AUM has not meanings, just make you enter in ressonance
with others chanting… That is a litle bitt superficial vision or
understanding, not only of mantras but specially of Aum, about whom or
which thousands of pages have been writen… After he speaks on the
ressonance also with the others who have chanted it. But there is no words
to the energies or Beings represented or invoked… Surely, that talk is
just a presentation of the course that will happen in the other day…
“The mind extends beyond the brain via fields…” <<< He fails to mention
what he means by 'fields' here, what sort of fields??? And also, provides
no experimental evidence backing his claim. This stuff is plain junk.
I feel like Sheldrake believes that consciousness is beyond what our eyes
and human vision can see. It’s something we can’t see at this moment, even
with a microscope
Sorry, I can’t help but shout out WOO to some of this, not because I don’t
agree with him but because I do agree and want to point out further
implications
Arrogance is the greatest block to true knowledge. With humility it is
easier to hear what different people have to share. Who has given
scientists a monopoly of the truth of the make up of life either as matter
or as spirit consciousness ? Ability to listen has many layers. Maybe a
little research into this would broaden our little minds!
knowledge food for the brain . love it,ive always been one of those people
that could sense what a person was feeling at the time just walking past
them, feeling and emotions are a bit confusing when your young but i felt
them ,i found it confusing then but now i understand it i dont take it
personally.
We need more people like Rupert . He is a thorn in the side of the
establishment because he though simple observation he looks again at whar
we are taught and makes us think about what else there maybe out there to
discover
Hahahaha! Did anyone notice the dog look up for a second when it sensed it
was being observed! ( about 14:04,,,). What if we extended our thinking
out of the box to recognizing the possibility of animals being given a 7th
sense. Gods Code. Animals will use this for survival whereas humans
would undoubtedly find a way to use it for harm.
With regard to lightning Rupert is significantly uninformed. Height above
terrain is not the operative principle for precipitating electrical
discharge. It is misleading to perpetuate this myth handed down from a
formerly less informed public. It is also disingenuous to display only
photos of strikes to tall structures while excluding those that don’t. It
is well established that electric currents follow the path of least
resistance, and tall structures become focal points of discharge because of
their ability to conduct the current flow more easily than the immediate
surroundings, but at times it will happen otherwise. One should observe
that the Washington monument was struck 2/3 up from the ground, not at the
peak, and in one photo there were leaders from the same strike connecting
to objects of lesser height. While I can appreciate Rupert’s research and
investigation (so many people never bother) his use of poor analogies not
directly applicable to the case is quite common in scientific circles.
Rupert Sheldrake is a groundbreaking thinker. One of those who will move us
forward not only intellectually…as a sidenote: I am worried about his
health…I hope my intuition is wrong about this…he is a treasure.
This is the most ridiculous nonsense I have ever heard! What on earth is
going on here? This Sheldrake chap clearly has no understanding of the
fundamental principles of science or its application. I don’t know where to
begin as his arguments and techniques are so juvenile it would require
years to correct. Incredible that anyone could take this seriously. Just
incredible.
I have followed Dr Sheldrake for some years now and concur with his
hypothesis on Morphic Resonance, a truly mind-liberating exploration of
many themes, both within, and bordering, science. Rupert possesses a great
gift for moving one’s thinking beyond the monochrome world of scientific
patriarchy.
Expanding what he was saying about chanting mantra’s, it gives an
interesting new perspective on how musicians and singers, choirs, ect. work
together. How tribute/cover artists may be resonating with the original
artist, how art we create connects us and allows us to resonate with those
who experience it. This world is endless connections.
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The Dodgy Dog experiment is all very well but what about the Dog who’s
master died at work never returning home. Yet for many years the dog went
to the bus stop at the right time and waited. I think a movie was
made based on it, not to mention other stories just like this. That would
refute this questionable assertion bordering on Woo. Perhaps quantum
entanglement might be the basis for the dog detecting the return or
something else. This would need to be done 100’s of times minimum to get a
data set. The way he is presenting this we will be asked to accept
mediums, witch-doctors, mind readers, faith healers and homeopathy as
plausible after a century of exposing the fakery and fraud of these
practices.
I’m just going to say this, i’m sure many of you have had similar
experiences:
I was a very spiritual child, but was groomed by parents/society into the
logical maths and sciences (which i love, don’t get me wrong).
I got into an ivy league school, and was becoming increasingly depressed
with the path I was being led down (as were many others, I observed).
I then took a particularly strong batch of magic mushrooms, which changed
the course of my life forever. I was graced by god, and had a confirmed
telepathic experience with my mother (3000 miles away).
After this event, the synchronicity floodgates in my life opened wide. I
knew that science wasn’t ‘wrong’ perse, just horribly incomplete at
explaining reality in totality as a methodology.
But its just a drug, right?
The brain is by far one of the most complex structure ever observed by man.
A single brain has more connections than stars in the known Universe, and
indeed, it can’t alone explain consciousness, but a woo, invisible and
magic thing like a “soul” can. Hum, interesting. The problem with Rupert’s
claims is that not only that several them are very problematic and
uninformed, but several of them we can actually show is completely
bullshit. The classical snake oil seller.
I like this lecture, He asks more questions than gives answers and that is
always a healthy approach. In the same way that Dawkins cautions against
the ‘god of the gaps’, being that ‘if we don’t understand it then it must
be god’, The same should apply to science being ‘if we don’t understand it
or cant record and measure it, that it doesn’t exist. The spiritual and
scientific horizon is always moving towards us and we navigate as we go.
Nice, specially on telepaty (dogs, but also humans) and memory of species,
or joking on death and ressurection at Jordan river, but some limitations,
like the one that AUM has not meanings, just make you enter in ressonance
with others chanting… That is a litle bitt superficial vision or
understanding, not only of mantras but specially of Aum, about whom or
which thousands of pages have been writen… After he speaks on the
ressonance also with the others who have chanted it. But there is no words
to the energies or Beings represented or invoked… Surely, that talk is
just a presentation of the course that will happen in the other day…
“The mind extends beyond the brain via fields…” <<< He fails to mention what he means by 'fields' here, what sort of fields??? And also, provides no experimental evidence backing his claim. This stuff is plain junk.
I feel like Sheldrake believes that consciousness is beyond what our eyes
and human vision can see. It’s something we can’t see at this moment, even
with a microscope
I am afraid he has lost the plot….. what happened to him ?
A brilliant man. I love his book… including its very irreverent title
which the American publisher didn’t have the guts to use.
Sorry, I can’t help but shout out WOO to some of this, not because I don’t
agree with him but because I do agree and want to point out further
implications
Arrogance is the greatest block to true knowledge. With humility it is
easier to hear what different people have to share. Who has given
scientists a monopoly of the truth of the make up of life either as matter
or as spirit consciousness ? Ability to listen has many layers. Maybe a
little research into this would broaden our little minds!
Very interesting………
I have not completely discredited it. Further experimentation and inquiry
is needed to confirm or deny it;
great talk of him 🙂
terence and him are rly great to listen to and to in terence words :
“dissolve boundaries” :)
I love Rupert!
knowledge food for the brain . love it,ive always been one of those people
that could sense what a person was feeling at the time just walking past
them, feeling and emotions are a bit confusing when your young but i felt
them ,i found it confusing then but now i understand it i dont take it
personally.
We need more people like Rupert . He is a thorn in the side of the
establishment because he though simple observation he looks again at whar
we are taught and makes us think about what else there maybe out there to
discover
. Many thanks Rupert!
Hahahaha! Did anyone notice the dog look up for a second when it sensed it
was being observed! ( about 14:04,,,). What if we extended our thinking
out of the box to recognizing the possibility of animals being given a 7th
sense. Gods Code. Animals will use this for survival whereas humans
would undoubtedly find a way to use it for harm.
Check out this video on YouTube:
With regard to lightning Rupert is significantly uninformed. Height above
terrain is not the operative principle for precipitating electrical
discharge. It is misleading to perpetuate this myth handed down from a
formerly less informed public. It is also disingenuous to display only
photos of strikes to tall structures while excluding those that don’t. It
is well established that electric currents follow the path of least
resistance, and tall structures become focal points of discharge because of
their ability to conduct the current flow more easily than the immediate
surroundings, but at times it will happen otherwise. One should observe
that the Washington monument was struck 2/3 up from the ground, not at the
peak, and in one photo there were leaders from the same strike connecting
to objects of lesser height. While I can appreciate Rupert’s research and
investigation (so many people never bother) his use of poor analogies not
directly applicable to the case is quite common in scientific circles.
Thank you so much Rupert. This guy enlightens me every time i listen to his
lectures. Who the hell disliked this shit though?
This guy is a loon. If logical reasoning is a skill, and the hundredth
monkey phenomenon is true, how is it that rejects like this still exist?
Jungs collective unconscious does include nature :)
Rupert Sheldrake is a groundbreaking thinker. One of those who will move us
forward not only intellectually…as a sidenote: I am worried about his
health…I hope my intuition is wrong about this…he is a treasure.
I find it odd that a guy this bright swallows Christianity hook line and
sinker and trusts the church despite the hidden agendas equally thoroughly.
This is the most ridiculous nonsense I have ever heard! What on earth is
going on here? This Sheldrake chap clearly has no understanding of the
fundamental principles of science or its application. I don’t know where to
begin as his arguments and techniques are so juvenile it would require
years to correct. Incredible that anyone could take this seriously. Just
incredible.
Wonderful please continue.
Stimulating the mind is what makes us interesting
Chris
What about a pet moth?
they smell our intentions.and WE do the same ..it is a sensation of
anticipation..that makes us put another plate on the table…
I have followed Dr Sheldrake for some years now and concur with his
hypothesis on Morphic Resonance, a truly mind-liberating exploration of
many themes, both within, and bordering, science. Rupert possesses a great
gift for moving one’s thinking beyond the monochrome world of scientific
patriarchy.
Expanding what he was saying about chanting mantra’s, it gives an
interesting new perspective on how musicians and singers, choirs, ect. work
together. How tribute/cover artists may be resonating with the original
artist, how art we create connects us and allows us to resonate with those
who experience it. This world is endless connections.
The heretical hero